tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7808733415551134993.post9152863820046850205..comments2024-03-05T13:51:24.898-07:00Comments on Spacefreighters Lounge : A NEW AUDIENCE FOR NAUGHTYUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7808733415551134993.post-30186639187332278422012-05-21T09:37:41.333-06:002012-05-21T09:37:41.333-06:00>tapping into a ready-made fandom certainly had...>tapping into a ready-made fandom certainly had it's pluses.<br /><br />And also some ethical issues.<br /><br />Now for my general response:<br /><br />I agree that geek girls who love ST are a ready-made audience for SFR, and SFR authors *have* been tapping into the Star Trek fandom for some time--Linnea Sinclair's work is one of the strongest examples of that.<br /><br />Unfortunately for SFR, there's a big difference in the source material of 50 Shades and Star Trek, meaning the type of fantasies they offer.<br /><br />50 Shades is basically explicit Twilight for adults. Star Trek doesn't tap into the forbidden romance/sexual relationship territory the way Twilight/50 Shades do. It isn't about that, although forbidden romance is a component of it at times.<br /><br />Plenty of ST and other SF fan fic stories have featured lots of sexy times. Have any of those been pulled to publish? If so, how successful were they? Star Trek has been bigger than Twilight, so why haven't we been hearing about those stories?<br /><br />What Barbara said: "I suspect YA - are fuelling some of the market here...so after being left longing after reading Twilight, they were ripe for 50 Shades!" <br /><br />Hence, the appeal of the forbidden romance, only this time around it was created explicitly for the adult market (and probably 18+ young adults as well).<br /><br />Then add in the fact that James pulled her fan fic to publish it--something that hasn't been very common until digital publishing made it more feasible.<br /><br />But I suspect that even if authors of erotic romance Star Trek fan fiction published their stories, the basic fantasy isn't quite the same as what 50 Shades is delivering.<br /><br />@Donna Re: systematic way: Perhaps one answer lies in good old fashioned marketing, done by both authors and publishers. <br /><br />Even books with strong buzz-appeal sometimes need a marketing boost. Of course, engineering an effective marketing plan costs money and time. How do we get the cash for that--maybe that's the real question.Heather Masseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00913459109753829391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7808733415551134993.post-38949713779666780652012-05-21T05:58:02.807-06:002012-05-21T05:58:02.807-06:00Laurie and Heather, I've always believed that ...Laurie and Heather, I've always believed that audience exists out there among TREK fan fic readers, a huge percentage of whom were women looking for a big romance component in the stories. I know Jackie Lichtenberg would back me up in this--she's built a whole career on it. The question in my mind has been how to tap into that audience in a systematic way--short of going to conventions and selling books in the dealers' rooms, which would work, but is expensive and slow.Donna S. Frelickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16431686010313020234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7808733415551134993.post-28603067290009412812012-05-19T14:35:58.810-06:002012-05-19T14:35:58.810-06:00Congrats on the requests!
I tend to avoid books t...Congrats on the requests!<br /><br />I tend to avoid books that seem overhyped like 50 Shades. Besides which, I haven't gotten into the whole Twilight obsession either. Does this mean we should all be writing fanfic?<br />Someone today compared my book to a Doctor Who story, which obviously has a huge cult following. Not sure if that's a good selling point or not, even though I AM a fan of the series.Pippa Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15146591827060731958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7808733415551134993.post-86203759810535300252012-05-19T10:05:32.613-06:002012-05-19T10:05:32.613-06:00Congrats on your requests, Donna, that's FANTA...Congrats on your requests, Donna, that's FANTASTIC - leave those nails alone and thanks for the promo! I haven't read 50 Shades. I'm very curious but feel if I buy it, I'm adding to the feeding frenzy. So why is James so successful? I agree it's the fanfiction thing. Look at the book Gabriel's Inferno - also fan fiction. also HUGE number of reviews on Amazon and Goodreads so I can only assume it's sold loads. One to me too unfortunately. I'm learning to look more carefully before I buy! <br />I suspect YA - are fuelling some of the market here. There's nothing to stop them reading naughty books. I had to make do with Ian Fleming when I was their age, so after being left longing after reading Twilight, they were ripe for 50 Shades!Barbara Elsborghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15825994197656747262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7808733415551134993.post-79622944985512649432012-05-19T05:35:52.545-06:002012-05-19T05:35:52.545-06:00This is my first time i visit here. I found so man...This is my first time i visit here. I found so many entertaining stuff in your blog, especially its discussion. From the tons of comments on your articles, I guess I am not the only one having all the enjoyment here! Keep up the good work.online diplomahttp://www.edwardhighschool.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7808733415551134993.post-26239486340438947922012-05-18T19:06:16.012-06:002012-05-18T19:06:16.012-06:00Interesting question. And while, like Donna, I...Interesting question. And while, like Donna, I'm still scratching my head how Barbara Elsborg's work didn't become mega bestsellers (if you want to know what I mean, read <i>Strangers</i>...that is all), I think tapping into a ready-made fandom certainly had it's pluses.<br /><br />So, this got me thinking. How and where would we go about tapping into this sort of fan mania, but for SFR? Where might we find a readymade audience like James?L. A. Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01198035351359321392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7808733415551134993.post-6083170542512401072012-05-18T12:30:43.876-06:002012-05-18T12:30:43.876-06:00Congratulations on the requests, Donna!
Re: 50: I...Congratulations on the requests, Donna!<br /><br />Re: 50: I wonder, though, what would have happened if James had submitted her trilogy to publishers without first sharing it with the Twilight fandom? Would it have garnered the same profitable advance?<br /><br />For me, the key difference between James and authors who have been writing similar erotic romance all along is that they didn't (as far as I know) tap into a huge fandom. From what I've read, James was very strategic about her path to publication.Heather Masseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00913459109753829391noreply@blogger.com